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if you dont consider this hostile activity, then of course you are always innocent and im always the one picking a fight
 
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<div class="quote">Gundam010 wrote:<br /><div class="quote">Laoweek wrote:<br /><div class="quote">Gundam010 wrote:<br /><div class="quote">Maccio1408 wrote:<br /><div class="quote">Gundam010 wrote:<br />-Stuff-</div>Well, you are not wrong on the part of bullying and so, BUT you are talking about the mess going up in China, While this thread talks about the vandalism and problems that might occur (and stuff that already occurred) to the users of this wikia, of this community.
   
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And I really doubt to find users of this wiki attacking any KC fan, while most of the time is quite the opposite. And if they do, report them to any admin of this wiki, that of course, if they are part of the wiki/community.
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About China, well, what can I say, stuff.
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Also, if reporting to admin does not work, well kindly tell them to p*ss off :V
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</div>Because both [http://warship-girls.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Laoweek Laoweek]<span style="font-family:"SegoeUI","MicrosoftYahei",sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:bold;line-height:18px;"> </span>and [http://warship-girls.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Jason199506 Jason199506]<span style="font-family:"SegoeUI","MicrosoftYahei",sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:bold;line-height:18px;"> </span><span style="font-weight:normal;">are Chinese, and are regarded as high-level fans of the WSG society. What's more, </span>[http://warship-girls.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Jason199506 Jason199506] <span style="font-weight:normal;">is in fact some sort of a band leader who always ganging up on KC players with his warriors. </span>So the case here, is just like two SS officers of the Third Reich illustrating how the Jews are "making a mess" to their Vaterland, and how their Kameraden "fight back".</div><br />1) I never said I am Chinese<br />2) Why does it matter? Is it a Chinese free place or something? Are you being racist to possibly your own race?<br />Speaking of the topic of fans, do you think that it is wrong to be a Warship Girls fan?
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you didn't answer the question of why nationality matters. It has been a long time since someone being racist to me. Yes, I do understand why you find some WSG fans annoying, but your comments are just inappropriate and unreasonable. Right now, you are the annoying one.<br />
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As such, you are banned, you have been warned.
 
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Comments from #16 to #36 are archived due to inappropriate and unconstructive discussion.

By AWB

Gundam010

Well well well, let's see what we have here: a WSG guy claiming about KC's HOSTILE ACTIVITY? Oh my, what a tragedy it is!

As far as i could remember, there are a good load of tragedies MUCH GREATER than this one, back in China, the home country of WSG.

But, all these tragedies seem to be a little different. Because they are caused by WSG, and it is the KC players in China who suffer from them.

In January of this year, the HM company even deliberately hired a propaganda professional, commanding him to publish a highly-propagandatistic article on one of the most famous proganda site. The article says that the ACTUAL GOAL of KC is to BRAINWASH the youths both in China and Japan, so as to turn them into FASCISTIC MANIACS. Then it points out that China should have its own KC-like game to resist such brainwashing power, "such as" WSG.(http://www.guancha.cn/zhangshizhuo/2016_02_09_350716.shtml)

Whenever there is some conflict on China's internet between KC and WSG, the Chinese KC players will soon find themselves outnumbered. 

And then, whatever the conflict is, the whole story will always be recorded and broadcasted as another "FAILED CONSPIRACY" caused by "EVIL TRAITORS OF NATION WHO GOT BRAINWAHSED BY KC " against "forever innocent" WSG and HM company. 

No matter it is on tieba(China's 4chan), or weibo(China's twitter), or zhihu(China's Quora), anyone who dares to post some notable enough unfavorable comment against WSG, will then find himself a so called "NYDUS NETWORK", that is, a certain post on the WSG board on tieba, with the url directing to that comment. Soon enough, the victim will get buried in the humiliative replies by WSG players following that url.

By the way, it is the WSG player themselves who take such name as "NYDUS NETWORK", because they also proudly call themselves "The SWARM" (Starcraft).

What's more, if an Chinese artist created some KC works, he/she will have to label them as WSG, or it will be really hard for them to get accepted by many comic conventions.

And it is almost impossible to find any KC videos on China's leading acg video-sharing site(bilibili.com), and very hard to buy KC stuffs online. 

There are still much more but I missed the breakfast. Apology. Really grateful for anyone who could spare their time for what I've wrote, and thanks again.

(It is really so astonishing for me to see a WSG player claiming about being the victim of HOSTILE ACTIVITY, especially when he happens to be one of those who get most excited when seeing a "NYDUS NETWORK".)


Maccio1408

Gundam010 wrote:
-Stuff-

Well, you are not wrong on the part of bullying and so, BUT you are talking about the mess going up in China, While this thread talks about the vandalism and problems that might occur (and stuff that already occurred) to the users of this wikia, of this community.

And I really doubt to find users of this wiki attacking any KC fan, while most of the time is quite the opposite. And if they do, report them to any admin of this wiki, that of course, if they are part of the wiki/community.

About China, well, what can I say, stuff.

Also, if reporting to admin does not work, well kindly tell them to p*ss off :V


ArcticaFrost

Maccio1408 wrote:
Gundam010 wrote:
-Stuff-
Well, you are not wrong on the part of bullying and so, BUT you are talking about the mess going up in China, While this thread talks about the vandalism and problems that might occur (and stuff that already occurred) to the users of this wikia, of this community.

And I really doubt to find users of this wiki attacking any KC fan, while most of the time is quite the opposite. And if they do, report them to any admin of this wiki, that of course, if they are part of the wiki/community.

About China, well, what can I say, stuff.

Also, if reporting to admin does not work, well kindly tell them to p*ss off :V

Not to be that guy but i don't think KC players or WG players really care about each other.


Lancer1408

Well, I don't, I no longer play KC cuz I barely tolerate card collection games on PC, and WSG got me cuz tablet (I know kancolle does play on android, but my cellphone is too crap to play KC there) and let me tell you, there are hardcore KC fans that bash upon WSG fans, I know, because I've been there. But for most of the time you are right, WSG and KC fans sometímes play both games. Also, sorry for any sh*tty english or writing, my tablet tries and fails to autocorrect english into spanish.


Jason199506

Gundam010 wrote:
-bullshits-

another typical chinese KC douchebag that takes all attack from KC against WSG as granted, and claims any sort of fightback from WSG players are unforgivable

so fkn typical

oh btw, 

Gundam010 wrote:
(It is really so astonishing for me to see a WSG player claiming about being the victim of HOSTILE ACTIVITY, especially when he happens to be one of those who get most excited when seeing a "NYDUS NETWORK".)

learn the difference between excitement and anger please


Jason199506

Gundam010 wrote:
-bullshits-

and now could you please get the hell out of this clean unpolluted english community, and leave your filthy actions on chinese forums


Jason199506

Maccio1408 wrote:
 
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well in case you havent notice, let me quote his own words "anyone who dares to post some notable enough unfavorable comment against WSG", which is exactly the cause of every single KC/WSG conflict. meanwhile he accuse WSG players fighting back these hostile comments, while thinking KC ppl making these comments against WSG are perfectly innocent

hope this would explain why i was so upset with him


Maccio1408

I get you buddy, that's why I wrote this as well to reply to him.

"And I really doubt to find users of this wiki attacking any KC fan, while most of the time is quite the opposite."

I mean, of course there will be bullying, but mostly from the KC fandom to the WSG fandom, and since we are talking about this wiki and its community, it gets more clear that sometimes some douchy KC fans might come and do what they do.


Laoweek

Gundam010 wrote:
Well well well, let's see what we have here: a WSG guy claiming about KC's HOSTILE ACTIVITY? Oh my, what a tragedy it is!

As far as i could remember, there are a good load of tragedies MUCH GREATER than this one, back in China, the home country of WSG.

it is not drama, stop using "tragedy"

But, all these tragedies seem to be a little different. Because they are caused by WSG, and it is the KC players in China who suffer from them.

Sure, WSG is responsible for fucking global warming, Europe refugee crisis, and everything single problem ever existed on the Earth.

In January of this year, the HM company even deliberately hired a propaganda professional, commanding him to publish a highly-propagandatistic article on one of the most famous proganda site. The article says that the ACTUAL GOAL of KC is to BRAINWASH the youths both in China and Japan, so as to turn them into FASCISTIC MANIACS. Then it points out that China should have its own KC-like game to resist such brainwashing power, "such as" WSG.(http://www.guancha.cn/zhangshizhuo/2016_02_09_350716.shtml)

DELIBERATELY? Before you continue your attempt at using expressive languages, I just want to suggest you to garb your dictionary and check what it means. Because you can't accidentally hire something, come on.

More importantly, if you want to accuse MF for using paid posters, you better have payslip or something to prove it. Otherwise, you are only trying to deny everything you don't want to exist in the name of freedom and by accusing with words like "propaganda". Because you didn't justify your claim at all. Citing the website you are accusing doesn't give your argument any credibility. You look more propagandistic than the accused article, don't you think so?

Whenever there is some conflict on China's internet betwe en KC and WSG, the Chinese KC players will soon find themselves outnumbered. 

And then, whatever the conflict is, the whole story will always be recorded and broadcasted as another "FAILED CONSPIRACY" caused by "EVIL TRAITORS OF NATION WHO GOT BRAINWAHSED BY KC " against "forever innocent" WSG and HM company. 

I am done with your bull shit. If you have to think that the only way to win a debate is by outnumbering and you are being considered as a "EVIL TRAITORS OF NATION WHO GOT BRAINWAHSED BY KC", what the fuck can I say?

No matter it is on tieba(China's 4chan), or weibo(China's twitter), or zhihu(China's Quora), anyone who dares to post some notable enough unfavorable comment against WSG, will then find himself a so called "NYDUS NETWORK", that is, a certain post on the WSG board on tieba, with the url directing to that comment. Soon enough, the victim will get buried in the humiliative replies by WSG players following that url.

You got the url of this thread from somewhere and created an account for this, didn't you?

By the way, it is the WSG player themselves who take such name as "NYDUS NETWORK", because they also proudly call themselves "The SWARM" (Starcraft).

What's more, if an Chinese artist created some KC works, he/she will have to label them as WSG, or it will be really hard for them to get accepted by many comic conventions.

And it is almost impossible to find any KC videos on China's leading acg video-sharing site(bilibili.com), and very hard to buy KC stuffs online. 

There are still much more but I missed the breakfast. Apology. Really grateful for anyone who could spare their time for what I've wrote, and thanks again.

(It is really so astonishing for me to see a WSG player claiming about being the victim of HOSTILE ACTIVITY, especially when he happens to be one of those who get most excited when seeing a "NYDUS NETWORK".)


Your comment is the stupidest argument about WSG fans I have ever heard. Yes, I do admit that there are some fucked-up problems with some WSG fans and the only thing they can do is to messing other people's stuff. You know what, I could have agreed you if you choose to express your feeling in a more appropriate, more responsible, and more respectful way. But right now, please stop being retarded, please, do yourself a favour.

BTW, MediaWiki archives everything ever get posted, so don't think you can delete it and it will be gone for good. Hope you can come up something more reasonable next time.


Gundam010

Laoweek wrote:
Your comment is the stupidest argument about WSG fans I have ever heard. Yes, I do admit that there are some fucked-up problems with some WSG fans and the only thing they can do is to messing other people's stuff. You know what, I could have agreed you if you choose to express your feeling in a more appropriate, more responsible, and more respectful way. But right now, please stop being retarded, please, do yourself a favour.

The problem is, it is not the WSG fans but the HM company to be blamed most. 

Of course there will always be some mean guys among the fans of both sides, but I don't think their pure malice could result in such horrible bullying to KC back in China. And there is a saying goes like this in China: Affecting one's profit is just like murdering his parents. And who is making such great profit from WSG in China? 


Gundam010

Jason199506 wrote:
another typical chinese KC douchebag that takes all attack from KC against WSG as granted, and claims any sort of fightback from WSG players are unforgivable

Talking about the bad things commited by KC douchebags, why don't you just list them up like me? I think that will be the best way to make such disputes settled. 


Gundam010

Maccio1408 wrote:
Gundam010 wrote:
-Stuff-
Well, you are not wrong on the part of bullying and so, BUT you are talking about the mess going up in China, While this thread talks about the vandalism and problems that might occur (and stuff that already occurred) to the users of this wikia, of this community.

And I really doubt to find users of this wiki attacking any KC fan, while most of the time is quite the opposite. And if they do, report them to any admin of this wiki, that of course, if they are part of the wiki/community.

About China, well, what can I say, stuff.

Also, if reporting to admin does not work, well kindly tell them to p*ss off :V

Because both Laoweek and Jason199506 are Chinese, and are regarded as high-level fans of the WSG society. What's more, Jason199506 is in fact some sort of a band leader who always ganging up on KC players with his warriors. 

So the case here, is just like two SS officers of the Third Reich illustrating how the Jews are "making a mess" to their Vaterland, and how their Kameraden "fight back".


Laoweek

Gundam010 wrote:
Maccio1408 wrote:
Gundam010 wrote:
-Stuff-
Well, you are not wrong on the part of bullying and so, BUT you are talking about the mess going up in China, While this thread talks about the vandalism and problems that might occur (and stuff that already occurred) to the users of this wikia, of this community.

And I really doubt to find users of this wiki attacking any KC fan, while most of the time is quite the opposite. And if they do, report them to any admin of this wiki, that of course, if they are part of the wiki/community.

About China, well, what can I say, stuff.

Also, if reporting to admin does not work, well kindly tell them to p*ss off :V

Because both Laoweek and Jason199506 are Chinese, and are regarded as high-level fans of the WSG society. What's more, Jason199506 is in fact some sort of a band leader who always ganging up on KC players with his warriors. So the case here, is just like two SS officers of the Third Reich illustrating how the Jews are "making a mess" to their Vaterland, and how their Kameraden "fight back".


1) I never said I am Chinese
2) Why does it matter? Is it a Chinese free place or something? Are you being racist to possibly your own race?
Speaking of the topic of fans, do you think that it is wrong to be a Warship Girls fan?


Jason199506

Laoweek wrote:
Speaking of the topic of fans, do you think that it is wrong to be a Warship Girls fan?

well no, he jsut thinks its wrong to feel offended when people say things like "all wsg players are idiots"


Henry821

Gundam010 wrote:

Because both Laoweek and Jason199506 are Chinese, and are regarded as high-level fans of the WSG society. What's more, Jason199506 is in fact some sort of a band leader who always ganging up on KC players with his warriors. 

So the case here, is just like two SS officers of the Third Reich illustrating how the Jews are "making a mess" to their Vaterland, and how their Kameraden "fight back".

What a fatal fault in your argument. You used Nazi as an example here, which was quite awful and you were about to step into some racist trouble when you said " because someone is Chinese, so he/she did such a thing", and it's just not logical.

I always believe that one cannot judge a person based on what game he/she is playing. I've seen many friendly and honorable KC players, but there are still some nasty ones for sure. And It's the same situation among WSG players. A smart phone with network data accessibility is the lowest requirement for the game, so what can you expect from this huge group of people? If you are a loyal KC player and confident enough, why would you have a feeling that WSG fans are bullying KC fans?

If a self-styled KC fan or whatever fan, like you, attacked us, we would fight back, exactly like what KC fans would do if a WSG fan offended them.in their fan websites. Simple game, simple rules.


Jason199506

Gundam010 wrote:
Because both Laoweek and Jason199506 are Chinese, and are regarded as high-level fans of the WSG society. What's more, Jason199506 is in fact some sort of a band leader who always ganging up on KC players with his warriors. So the case here, is just like two SS officers of the Third Reich illustrating how the Jews are "making a mess" to their Vaterland, and how their Kameraden "fight back".

first, germany is the homeland of some of the jews, while wsg community doesnt belong to the chinese kc population

2nd, jews are harmless, while you guys go under pretty much every single wsg fanart/video/thread and say things like "copyright infringement" "ripoff game" "garbage game"

3rd, SS kill jews, i dont mean to kill you, all i want is to stop you from posting things"notable enough unfavorable against WSG". but who knows, if insulting wsg is what you survive on, and stop insulting wsg will result in your death, then by all means go die and make the world a better place.


Gundam010

Henry821 wrote:
Gundam010 wrote:

Because both Laoweek and Jason199506 are Chinese, and are regarded as high-level fans of the WSG society. What's more, Jason199506 is in fact some sort of a band leader who always ganging up on KC players with his warriors. 

So the case here, is just like two SS officers of the Third Reich illustrating how the Jews are "making a mess" to their Vaterland, and how their Kameraden "fight back".

What a fatal fault in your argument. You used Nazi as an example here, which was quite awful and you were about to step into some racist trouble when you said " because someone is Chinese, so he/she did such a thing", and it's just not logical.

I always believe that one cannot judge a person based on what game he/she is playing. I've seen many friendly and honorable KC players, but there are still some nasty ones for sure. And It's the same situation among WSG players. A smart phone with network data accessibility is the lowest requirement for the game, so what can you expect from this huge group of people? If you are a loyal KC player and confident enough, why would you have a feeling that WSG fans are bullying KC fans?

If a self-styled KC fan or whatever fan, like you, attacked us, we would fight back, exactly like what KC fans would do if a WSG fan offended them.in their fan websites. Simple game, simple rules.

Neither Kadokawa nor DMM (dares to) has any business about KC in China, because hatred towards Japanese has been mounting up since two years ago. And it has developed into a dangerous enough state now: a well-known online store has been banned for selling KC-related comics. Therefore, the KC players are totally unorganized, unarmed and lacking leadership.

On the other hand, WSG players in China is highly organized and "well-equiped" because the HM company has really made a good amount of profit, and has very firm control over them. Ever since the beginning of this year, HM has been really busy showing off their growing "friendship" with the government,making WSG players more and more faithful to their power and capability. Such as that article accusing KC while speaking highly of WSG in one published on a very government-related site as I mentioned above. There are even rumors saying that the head of the leaders of the largest discussion board of KC in China has been at HM company's disposal ever since Feburary 2015. 

At the same time, because of all the "odds" WSG has gone through, with all the propagandas by HM, the WSG players are very paranoid and highly zealous whenever there is any conflict between any other game and WSG. Especially when there is always someone like Jason199506 striking up a sudden skirmish or something.

How I wish you could read Chinese and see for yourselves. Because I know it is hard for you to believe in a stranger like me, especailly when there are two Chinese WSG zealots getting so mad in this thread.


Gundam010

Laoweek wrote:
Gundam010 wrote:
Maccio1408 wrote:
Gundam010 wrote:
-Stuff-
Well, you are not wrong on the part of bullying and so, BUT you are talking about the mess going up in China, While this thread talks about the vandalism and problems that might occur (and stuff that already occurred) to the users of this wikia, of this community.

And I really doubt to find users of this wiki attacking any KC fan, while most of the time is quite the opposite. And if they do, report them to any admin of this wiki, that of course, if they are part of the wiki/community.

About China, well, what can I say, stuff.

Also, if reporting to admin does not work, well kindly tell them to p*ss off :V

Because both Laoweek and Jason199506 are Chinese, and are regarded as high-level fans of the WSG society. What's more, Jason199506 is in fact some sort of a band leader who always ganging up on KC players with his warriors. So the case here, is just like two SS officers of the Third Reich illustrating how the Jews are "making a mess" to their Vaterland, and how their Kameraden "fight back".

1) I never said I am Chinese

2) Why does it matter? Is it a Chinese free place or something? Are you being racist to possibly your own race?
Speaking of the topic of fans, do you think that it is wrong to be a Warship Girls fan?

Becasue you two are more than well informed about what is going on in China, and know too well how Chinese KC players are being pushed around by you and your Kameraden supervised by the Fuehrers of HM company. And now you two are pouring out all kinds of accuses about how KC players are attacking WSG?? This is just like two Japanese officers grudging about the "hostile actions" of those poor Chinese civilians during their fun in Nanjing Massacre! 


Gundam010

Laoweek wrote:
Gundam010 wrote:
Maccio1408 wrote:
Gundam010 wrote:
-Stuff-
Well, you are not wrong on the part of bullying and so, BUT you are talking about the mess going up in China, While this thread talks about the vandalism and problems that might occur (and stuff that already occurred) to the users of this wikia, of this community.

And I really doubt to find users of this wiki attacking any KC fan, while most of the time is quite the opposite. And if they do, report them to any admin of this wiki, that of course, if they are part of the wiki/community.

About China, well, what can I say, stuff.

Also, if reporting to admin does not work, well kindly tell them to p*ss off :V

Because both Laoweek and Jason199506 are Chinese, and are regarded as high-level fans of the WSG society. What's more, Jason199506 is in fact some sort of a band leader who always ganging up on KC players with his warriors. So the case here, is just like two SS officers of the Third Reich illustrating how the Jews are "making a mess" to their Vaterland, and how their Kameraden "fight back".

1) I never said I am Chinese

2) Why does it matter? Is it a Chinese free place or something? Are you being racist to possibly your own race?
Speaking of the topic of fans, do you think that it is wrong to be a Warship Girls fan?

By the way, I found this thread from this post on tieba: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4729619974. Maybe you have already got a green card or something? 


Jason199506

Gundam010 wrote:
Becasue you two are more than well informed about what is going on in China, and know too well how Chinese KC players are being pushed around by you and your Kameraden supervised by the Fuehrers of HM company. And now you two are pouring out all kinds of accuses about how KC players are attacking WSG?? This is just like two Japanese officers grudging about the "hostile actions" of those poor Chinese civilians during their fun in Nanjing Massacre! 

well who exactly is it that went as far as going to a totally unfamiliar community just to defame a certain player group?

if you dont consider this hostile activity, then of course you are always innocent and im always the one picking a fight


Laoweek

Gundam010 wrote:
Laoweek wrote:
Gundam010 wrote:
Maccio1408 wrote:
Gundam010 wrote:
-Stuff-
Well, you are not wrong on the part of bullying and so, BUT you are talking about the mess going up in China, While this thread talks about the vandalism and problems that might occur (and stuff that already occurred) to the users of this wikia, of this community.

And I really doubt to find users of this wiki attacking any KC fan, while most of the time is quite the opposite. And if they do, report them to any admin of this wiki, that of course, if they are part of the wiki/community.

About China, well, what can I say, stuff.

Also, if reporting to admin does not work, well kindly tell them to p*ss off :V

Because both Laoweek and Jason199506 are Chinese, and are regarded as high-level fans of the WSG society. What's more, Jason199506 is in fact some sort of a band leader who always ganging up on KC players with his warriors. So the case here, is just like two SS officers of the Third Reich illustrating how the Jews are "making a mess" to their Vaterland, and how their Kameraden "fight back".

1) I never said I am Chinese
2) Why does it matter? Is it a Chinese free place or something? Are you being racist to possibly your own race?
Speaking of the topic of fans, do you think that it is wrong to be a Warship Girls fan?
By the way, I found this thread from this post on tieba: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4729619974. Maybe you have already got a green card or something? 


you didn't answer the question of why nationality matters. It has been a long time since someone being racist to me. Yes, I do understand why you find some WSG fans annoying, but your comments are just inappropriate and unreasonable. Right now, you are the annoying one.
As such, you are banned, you have been warned.

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